Dragon vs. Dragon: Same Name, Different Genus?

In a discussion of dragonfruit (common in China), a Chinese friend pointed out that Chinese dragons and Western dragons are quite different. I was surprised, I hadn’t noticed this. My friend was right:

There are two distinct cultural traditions of dragons: theĀ European dragon, derived from European folk traditions and ultimately related to Greek and Middle Eastern mythologies, and theĀ Chinese dragon, with counterparts in Japan, Korea and other East Asian countries.

says Wikipedia. Why two different imaginary animals would be quite similar isn’t obvious.

 

12 Responses to “Dragon vs. Dragon: Same Name, Different Genus?”

  1. Richard Sprague Says:

    This is just an artifact of language, and how somebody a long time ago decided that the proper translation of “Qilin” is “Dragon”. They could have easily decided to simply call it a “Qilin”.

    This is similar to how the word “Typhoon” just means “Hurricane in the Pacific”. (or more precisely, “tropical cyclone”.

    I bet that whatever similarity there is between the two imaginary animals is a recent development: before East-West contact, they could have been totally different long ago.

  2. Three Pipe Problem Says:

    Watch “Symbols of an Alien Sky” and you will understand where the dragon myths came from and what they have in common.

  3. Three Pipe Problem Says:

    P.S. It’s not about aliens.

  4. Brandon Berg Says:

    They’re not all that similar. Chinese dragons are essentially flying snakes, whereas western dragons have four legs, large wings, and torsos. All they have in common are flying, being reptilian and breathing fire. (Actually, do Chinese dragons do that?)

    Note also that Chinese “lions” are not all that similar to real lions, and in Japanese the real giraffe is named after a very different mythological creature, the kirin.

  5. kxmoore Says:

    it has been proposed that dragon myths evolved from exposure to dinosaur fossils. would explain cross-cultural similarities.

  6. shtove Says:

    Lions in medieval heraldry were actually leopards.

    And the giraffe is camelopardalis.

    Dragon is from dracus, which means ia. water snake, which gives us Dracula. Mwahahahaa.

  7. dearieme Says:

    I’ve seen the claim that the Welsh dragon was introduced to the Romano-Britons by Sarmatian cavalry units of the Roman Army.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_Dragon

    The Sarmatians seem to have come from an area that stretched as far east as the Caspian.

  8. Florinescu Eduard Says:

    How would an animal look if you would found its bones. Do you think our civilizations is the only one digging or finding dinosaur bones. Maybe they project the shadow of their civilization on this reconstructed unidentified animal.

  9. Florinescu Eduard Says:

    @kxmoore Just now I saw your comment I thought about this but didn’t found this speculation in literature, can you give me a reference where you found this mentioned.

  10. David Says:

    The Chinese dragon is based on the appearance of biggish asteroid impacts, the atmospheric trail in particular.

  11. Tim Beneke Says:

    I’m told by a Chinese friend that, for the Chinese, the dragon is always serious. This came as a surprise since I always saw dragons as at times, light and sources of amusement…

  12. kxmoore Says:

    Florinescu see “the first fossil hunters” by Mayer

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrienne_Mayor#Fossil_Legends_of_the_First_Americans_.282005.29